My mom’s side, the Webb side, her dad’s side of the family, they are Nez Perce, they stay in the Umatilla area. Sol Webb was a tribal fishing chief, a sub chief, right up here and they worked out of Celilo Falls, which is below here a few miles and that is where he was chief that delegated authority and who would fish in which spot and made sure rotations were made. People were allocated what they were needed and long houses were kept up to date. He showed everybody else. My dad’s side, they fish but not a lot. I had never heard about it before. But my mom’s side, my great grandfather, Sol Webb, would just tell us that we have been doing this for a long time. It is something that I was never shown that was important. You know people don’t know that, Nez Perce have traded down here. The Dalles is one of the major hubs, below Celilo Falls, it was one of the major hubs of trade. People would come from all these different regions, what used to be the Washington territory, Montana, Idaho, Oregon, all these areas. They used to come into this area to trade for the fish, the dried fish. It is really important. Something you can preserve for a long time, people practice these traditions of preserving these fish. It is really good protein. It is a good way to replenish yourself during the hard times, during the winter when it would be a long time before you could go hunt or anything. It was commerce. Even when the white people first started coming into this area, they weren’t fisherman. They come in here and think that, I mean I am not putting them down. They came in here after we were here and we let them know that you could catch fish and people never looked at salmon fisheries as being important. Then you can over utilize the resources. We used to trade. My friends and relatives tell me we used to go all the way to the Plains people would come and trade for the fish. We learned a lot of their traditions and values, exchanged a lot of ideas with them, like getting the teepee and they got a resource from us knowing that fish could be used for sustenance. It was really important for them that they could come that far to trade for it. It is more important than you think when that was the economy, based on this type of thing, trade, barter. That was the money then. It was important.